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svxy 07-26-2009 06:07 AM

RIP
 
It looks like I will have to put my old friend to sleep. I noticed last week that someone had done a hit and run on the front bumper. They bent the bottom of the bumper with what looked like a shopping cart. I pulled it out and other then a few deep scratches I thought it was fine, that is until it over heated. After having it towed in and inspected from underneath, the perpetrator had hit it so hard that they had bent the radiator support so that the radiator was pushed almost into the engine and had actually bent the frame where the support attaches. Major damage, not to mention the loss of coolant and pegging the temp gauge on the interstate. $2000.00 damage or $1000 if I do much of the work myself and that’s if there is no damage to the engine. So thanks to Obama, my baby, my very special car is a klunker. As an incentive to boost our failing economy it qualifies for a $3500 trade in value, plus I pay taxes on the new cars price after trade in, not original price and I get to deduct those taxes on my end of year taxes. I test-drove a 2008 Impreza (red like the SVX) 2009 Legacy and the new 2010 Legacy with the 6-speed tranny. All nice cars especially the new design 2010, but all paled in comparison to the SVX. Even the 2009 Legacy with the 6 cylinders, variable suspension and every accessory available. None of them rode, handled, accelerated, was as quiet or simply drove as well as the SVX. Not even close. Nor will I have the pleasure of pulling up to a WRX and give them a run for their money with the old dog Subaru anymore. If I do this I will miss my old friend very much. It was just getting ready to turn over to its 100,000-mile birthday too. I will never own another car like this one. I would regularly get into it just run a quick errand, look around while I was driving and remark to myself " I really like this car". The demoralizing part of the story is that because it is classified as a gas guzzling klunker ( I did get 30 mpg on the interstate often) they must destroy the engine by pouring liquid glass into it while it runs and seizing the engine. Hence putting it to sleep. Its hard to imagine the roads around here not having this car on them, but times are tough and I have to consider the economic options and the opportunity to move on. If I do decide and it will be next week, it will be a sad day.

TomsSVX 07-26-2009 07:38 AM

Re: RIP
 
This thread is just chock-full-o-fail. Thank goodness for Obama and this Clunker B/S

Tom

ensteele 07-26-2009 08:36 AM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomsSVX (Post 611166)
This thread is just chock-full-o-fail. Thank goodness for Obama and this Clunker B/S

Tom

Yes, acording to Noboma, the SVX qualifies as a Clunker. :mad:

SoCal LS-L 07-26-2009 09:40 AM

Re: RIP
 
If the car were Old Yeller, the OP would be Arliss :lol:

svxfiles 07-26-2009 02:20 PM

Re: RIP
 
I have contacted the local car crusher, just outside of Cumberland MD, and if he gets an SVX on the cash for clunkers program :mad: he says that he will contact me before he crushes it so that I might save the engine/transmission/etc.
Of course I will have to9 compensate him finantually, but at least they don't have to completely die!
Please ask the dealer that you aredealing with and ask him where it's going.
Tom
304-738-0012
301-707-2837
301-707-3437

TomsSVX 07-26-2009 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by svxfiles (Post 611195)
I have contacted the local car crusher, just outside of Cumberland MD, and if he gets an SVX on the cash for clunkers program :mad: he says that he will contact me before he crushes it so that I might save the engine/transmission/etc.
Of course I will have to9 compensate him finantually, but at least they don't have to completely die!
Please ask the dealer that you aredealing with and ask him where it's going.
Tom
304-738-0012
301-707-2837
301-707-3437

It is illegal to remove any part of the drivetrain from a clunker. Sucks but true

Tom

BoxerFanatic 07-26-2009 06:24 PM

Re: RIP
 
This program is evil, every way around.

Wikedjuggalo 07-26-2009 06:44 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomsSVX (Post 611196)
It is illegal to remove any part of the drivetrain from a clunker. Sucks but true

Tom

Since when has that ever stopped anyone :lol:

subeman90 07-26-2009 07:24 PM

Re: RIP
 
subscribe! this should get funny in here :lol:

subiemech85 07-26-2009 07:46 PM

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http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-14

..."The entity crushing or shredding the vehicles in this manner will be allowed to sell some parts of the vehicle prior to crushing or shredding it, but these parts cannot include the engine or the drive train."

so steal them!! :cool:

Mike621 07-26-2009 08:04 PM

Re: RIP
 
Any true SVX enthusiast who claims to love their car would not send one of these cars to its iminent death, regardless of incentive.


If you love your SVX, FIX IT!


I have a feeling we will see many similar threads, as most people cannot justify owning and maintaining them properly.


Remember, nobody is prying the keys from your fingers, it is your choice to send it to the crusher. I am already fed up with the members on this board complaining about this program. If you dont like it, you don't have to send your car to it's death!

michael 07-26-2009 08:09 PM

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Go on craigslist find a $50 car and trade that in. If you love your SVX set it free. Don't kill it.

SoCal LS-L 07-26-2009 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michael (Post 611250)
Go on craigslist find a $50 car and trade that in. If you love your SVX set it free. Don't kill it.

From what I was told, the gov't included the requirement that the car has to be in your ownership for at least 2 years, for that very reason.

subiemech85 07-26-2009 08:40 PM

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http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-16

"be continuously insured and registered to the same owner for the full year preceding the trade-in "

check the facts

trade in cheap car to dealer, not cfc

SoCal LS-L 07-26-2009 09:02 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subiemech85 (Post 611258)
http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-16

"be continuously insured and registered to the same owner for the full year preceding the trade-in "

check the facts

trade in cheap car to dealer, not cfc

Yeah year, two, whichever.... theyre trying to keep people from buying junk cars to do this with and tap out the funds before it serves its intended purpose. I think giving up the SVX for this plan is crap...... especially since regardless of what the EPA thinks, mine gets nearly 30mpg on the freeway.

subbieatnz 07-26-2009 10:32 PM

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Well depending if you have the room you could always buy another SVX and keep that one for spares... Please Dont kill it :(

BoxerFanatic 07-26-2009 10:41 PM

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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/26/r...l-engines-wit/

cash-for-clunkers-dealers-instructed-to-kill-engines-with-sodium-silicate-Autoblog

DON'T LET THEM KILL An EG33

DON'T LET THEM KILL An SVX.


I don't know who's grand idea this legislation was, but I hope I never meet that person. I might do something I regret later.

Gamesy 07-26-2009 11:41 PM

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Jeeze i'm glad i live in canada away from stupid US laws :P

stiguy 07-27-2009 04:08 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike621 (Post 611248)
Any true SVX enthusiast who claims to love their car would not send one of these cars to its iminent death, regardless of incentive.


If you love your SVX, FIX IT!


I have a feeling we will see many similar threads, as most people cannot justify owning and maintaining them properly.


Remember, nobody is prying the keys from your fingers, it is your choice to send it to the crusher. I am already fed up with the members on this board complaining about this program. If you dont like it, you don't have to send your car to it's death!


Yea really!!! if you don't want it any more and dont want it to go to the crusher.... just give it to some one on the board that WILL FIX IT.

SoCal LS-L 07-27-2009 04:18 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stiguy (Post 611345)
Yea really!!! if you don't want it any more and dont want it to go to the crusher.... just give it to some one on the board that WILL FIX IT.

I agree, however who's handing out the $3500 checks in this forum, and where can I find him :D On the plus side out of this, our cars just get that much more rare.

BoxerFanatic 07-27-2009 05:06 PM

Re: RIP
 
Give me my tax money back, and maybe I will use it to buy another nice SVX.

Where do you think those checks come from in the first place.

These cars were rare before. They are going to get rarified right out of spare parts, which will make it harder to keep others on the road.

subeman90 07-27-2009 07:05 PM

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http://k43.pbase.com/o6/05/29105/1/7...tdeadhorse.gif

SoCal LS-L 07-27-2009 07:22 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxerFanatic (Post 611357)
Give me my tax money back, and maybe I will use it to buy another nice SVX.

Where do you think those checks come from in the first place.

These cars were rare before. They are going to get rarified right out of spare parts, which will make it harder to keep others on the road.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...il9/picard.jpg

stiguy 07-27-2009 11:24 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxerFanatic (Post 611357)
Give me my tax money back, and maybe I will use it to buy another nice SVX.

Where do you think those checks come from in the first place.

These cars were rare before. They are going to get rarified right out of spare parts, which will make it harder to keep others on the road.

Quick everyone get there own parts car! lol

Hondasucks 07-27-2009 11:53 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subiemech85 (Post 611245)
http://www.cars.gov/faq#category-14

..."The entity crushing or shredding the vehicles in this manner will be allowed to sell some parts of the vehicle prior to crushing or shredding it, but these parts cannot include the engine or the drive train."

so steal them!! :cool:


That's because the REAL reason for this stupid bill is because the free thinkin hippies don't want these gas guzzlers that are responsible for global warming, etc.. staying on the road, and they don't want the parts going to anything else. I think it's completely ridiculous to take an otherwise perfectly good car and trash it for really no good reason. Now I could see if someone brought in some junk heap, but one of the stipulations is that the car must run.. Seriously, you'd also think that scrapping out a car creates a lot of pollution and hazardous waste.. I think they also want to get rid of spare parts for these older cars, to force people to buy something new to keep the big 3 in business. This whole clunker bill just reeks of ulterior motives to me, you know how sneaky those free-thinkin liberals can be...
I could see the government offering an incentive to trade in your old car for a new one that gets better mileage, but why not give that otherwise perfectly good car to someone who doesn't have one or can't afford one... I sure hope people realize how stupid this program is and that they don't do it again! I also hope someone isn't stupid enough to trade in an SVX... (I kinda think this bill was more aimed at SUVs though, remember they are solely responsible for the polar ice caps melting!)

SSSVX 07-28-2009 01:36 AM

Re: RIP
 
How long does this clunker program last? :rolleyes:

huck369 07-28-2009 05:04 AM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSSVX (Post 611399)
How long does this clunker program last? :rolleyes:

Until the allotted money runs out....

TomsSVX 07-28-2009 05:08 AM

Re: RIP
 
until the democrats realize it was a bad idea.... AKA 4 years from now

Tom

BoxerFanatic 07-28-2009 08:56 AM

Re: RIP
 
They only allotted about 1/4 of the money they figured it would cost...

And the bill sunsets in November, IIRC, but has the option to extend.

If they see their pet project GM benefiting from this, and they think they can wring more out of it, it will likely be extended, and enlarged.

They don't seem to have any problem spending the money of generations not yet born, or printing money as fast as the presses will go, or as fast as they can write zeros in a ledger. So the money is not likely an issue for them. It is only an issue for us.

WestCoastSVX 07-28-2009 11:46 AM

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In reply to the original poster and original subject of this thread before it derailed into dead horse beating.......

Do you have full coverage insurance?

I recently had a parking lot hit-and-run and it qualified for Uninsured Motorist coverage - the same thing I'd use if I got in an actual collision with someone on the road and it was their fault and they had no insurance. It was a $300 deductible in my case, but that was a lot better than $1,500, and I just had them cut me a check anyway so I pocketed $1,200 out of the deal to put towards the full bodywork/paint the car desperately needs. (I wasn't going to have $1,500 work done on a small section of the car while the rest is dented up too)

Point is, if you have that coverage on your insurance, you could have everything good as new for a few hundred bucks maybe. :)

Of course the danger in that is that if there's engine damage and all of that, the damage estimate might get high enough that they total it. But in your case sounds like that might be okay. You'd probably get $3,500 from the insurance for your car and it could actually go to a salvage yard that isn't required to destroy the engine and then crush it immediately.

Then again, you probably don't have full coverage. My agent years ago told me I should drop it because the car was worth so little, etc, etc. Glad I stuck with it though - for the maybe $200 extra I've paid for that coverage in those 2 years, I've gotten a $1,000 windshield replaced and now this $1,200 cash for hit-n-run. :o

MadMaxSvx 07-28-2009 04:54 PM

Re: RIP
 
OMG! 3500 for killing an SVX?? Thats what i just paid to buy mine... and i purchased a car that needs a new engine,leather, paint and so on... Come on!! No money is enough to kill this kind of car. What a stupid law :mad:

subeman90 07-28-2009 06:21 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMaxSvx (Post 611489)
What a stupid law :mad:

it isn't a law...it is an offer to "purchase" your old car. Nobody is forcing anyone to do this. :rolleyes:

Mephis 07-28-2009 07:12 PM

Re: RIP
 
It's this simple.

**** the laws. They're rarely if ever enforced. Pull your engine and use it for a coffee table or something, hell I don't know. If I ever get pulled over in my XT6 and a cop looks under it I'd probably go to jail. lol...

TomsSVX 07-28-2009 07:23 PM

Re: RIP
 
I am not sure about this but considering it is a federal program the laws around it are probably going to be enforced under federal law... I would rather not be part of a federal offense over an engine or trans.

BTW worste that can happen to you is you get your car impounded

Tom

SoCal LS-L 07-28-2009 07:43 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomsSVX (Post 611506)
I am not sure about this but considering it is a federal program the laws around it are probably going to be enforced under federal law... I would rather not be part of a federal offense over an engine or trans.

Tom

My mom opens my mail back home..... given that its a federal offense, should I have her incarcerated or just form my own lynch mob ? :D

TomsSVX 07-28-2009 07:46 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 611514)
My mom opens my mail back home..... given that its a federal offense, should I have her incarcerated or just form my own lynch mob ? :D

Why is this the typical kind of response to a totally serious comment?:confused:

Tom

MadMaxSvx 07-28-2009 08:52 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subeman90 (Post 611493)
it isn't a law...it is an offer to "purchase" your old car. Nobody is forcing anyone to do this. :rolleyes:

What a stupid offer to "purchase" your old car :mad:... :p

SoCal LS-L 07-28-2009 09:13 PM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomsSVX (Post 611517)
Why is this the typical kind of response to a totally serious comment?:confused:

Tom

Maybe to lighten the mood a little bit..... it seems some folks take life wayyy too seriously.

TomsSVX 07-29-2009 05:12 AM

Re: RIP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 611531)
Maybe to lighten the mood a little bit..... it seems some folks take life wayyy too seriously.

It is a serious discussion about a serious government program and its potential consequences. I don't see where it is really appropriate

Tom

Subie59 07-29-2009 05:53 AM

Re: RIP
 
Some thoughts:
No question this was done to help the big 3. Problem is more Hondas, Toyotas, Subarus and Kias will be sold as a result of this than Fords, Chevy's and Chryslers. More American money will be transferred to Japan. Americans will go further into debt just when they should be saving their money.

It's always cheaper to put a couple thousand dollars into your car than $20,000 for a new one.

Local service stations will suffer because these older cars will be removed from the road.

Young kids looking for a cheap car will have to pay more that $3,500 to own a clunker.

More people will be losing these new cars due to bankruptcy after they lose their jobs.

Used cars of all makes will go up in price because it will be better to junk them than sell them for $1,000-$2,0000.

More cars will go to the dump and fill up our landfills.

Rare cars like ours will become rarer.


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