The Subaru SVX World Network   SVX Network Forums
Live Chat!
SVX or Subaru Links
Old Lockers
Photo Post
How-To Documents
Message Archive
SVX Shop Search
IRC users:

Go Back   The Subaru SVX World Network > SVX Main Forums > Wanted or For Sale > SVX World Network Official Group Buys > Group Buys
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #286  
Old 10-19-2011, 05:37 PM
svxfiles's Avatar
svxfiles svxfiles is offline
There's a storm coming.
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wiley Ford WV
Posts: 8,650
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by sunvalleyray View Post
OT,

Think I will remove my bar and measure off the car, unfortunatley I am flying back east on a business trip for ten days and will not get to it until November.

Questions...
1) Would it not be sensible to have the same specs (meaning width) as the OEM bar?2) How difficult would it be to bend Nevin's bar? And how?

Ray
I just measured a factory stock Subaru rear anti-sway bar for length.
The bar with factory bushings is 47,1/2".
If you include the U-ends from the factory end links it now totals 48", not counting the bolt heads or nuts!
The NEVIN BAR is NOT THE PROBLEM!

The original links are 144MM, center to center,
the aftermarket stock end links that I used from something have a center to center of 160MM.
The adjustable links that Nevin provided can be adjusted down to about
147MM.
SOOO, maybe the solution is the teflon adjustable links for the quieter ride, adjusted to the minimum length.

Thoughts?
__________________
www.svxfiles.com
The first SuperCharged SVX,
the first 4.44 gears,
the first equal length headers,
the first phenolic spacers,
the first Class Glass fiberglass hood,
the first with 4, 4.44s in his driveway


Fiberglass Hood thread
My locker
4.44 Swap link
Reply With Quote
  #287  
Old 10-19-2011, 08:00 PM
sunvalleyray sunvalleyray is offline
Registered User
Subaru Gold Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 227
Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

OT,

Your solution seems reasonable but perhaps bending the bar in at both ends elimanates the problem to begin with? This solution assumes one can bend Nevin's bar without harm which I don't know if this is possible???????

Ray
Reply With Quote
  #288  
Old 10-19-2011, 08:09 PM
svxfiles's Avatar
svxfiles svxfiles is offline
There's a storm coming.
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wiley Ford WV
Posts: 8,650
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by svxcess View Post
Shot of my right rear endlink from the original installation. car on lift.






But whose is this? I found this on my computer.
Looks like a problem but can't figure it out from the photo. Looks like the end link bolt and the banjo bolt are almost touching.




.
John, I'm thinking that it MIGHT be Geoff's picture;
[IMG]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
Here's a pic of the new. Nevermind the not sitting REALLY close to the brake banjo bolt. The car was on a lift, and even on a lift it cleared with about 3-4mm. It will never get this close in daily driving.
[/IMG]
__________________
www.svxfiles.com
The first SuperCharged SVX,
the first 4.44 gears,
the first equal length headers,
the first phenolic spacers,
the first Class Glass fiberglass hood,
the first with 4, 4.44s in his driveway


Fiberglass Hood thread
My locker
4.44 Swap link
Reply With Quote
  #289  
Old 10-20-2011, 06:29 AM
huck369's Avatar
huck369 huck369 is offline
Inventor of the 5-speed swap
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Somerset, KY
Posts: 5,617
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by svxfiles View Post
I just measured a factory stock Subaru rear anti-sway bar for length.
The bar with factory bushings is 47,1/2".
If you include the U-ends from the factory end links it now totals 48", not counting the bolt heads or nuts!
The NEVIN BAR is NOT THE PROBLEM!

The original links are 144MM, center to center,
the aftermarket stock end links that I used from something have a center to center of 160MM.
The adjustable links that Nevin provided can be adjusted down to about
147MM.
SOOO, maybe the solution is the teflon adjustable links for the quieter ride, adjusted to the minimum length.

Thoughts?

This would probably work, but it would cost no more to have the new (Future) bars bent a little further to gain clearance, say 47" out to out, or even 46 1/2" for some extra clearance....I see nothing that being a little less would be an issue with.
__________________
Huck
Subaru Ambassador
92 SVX LS-Tour Magnaflow Exhaust, 5-Spd-AWD
88 XT6 AWD 5-Speed "Bride of FrankenWedge"
15 Impreza Premium Sedan
15 Crosstrek XV 5-Speed
My 5-Speed "How-To" Write-up
1976 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Current Count of Subaru's Owned.... "70"
Reply With Quote
  #290  
Old 10-31-2011, 07:55 AM
subarusvx1992 subarusvx1992 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arbor Vitae, Wisconsin
Posts: 30
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by svxcess View Post
Are these the RERS 3
Male: 14mm, 16mm, 18mm
Female: 14mm, 16mm, 18mm

$28.50 for a pack of 6?


,
Hi everyone! I thought I would post my results on these boots. After installing them and testing them for about a week, I can report that my rattles are 75% gone. Driving down the highway the endlinks are now quiet where before they would rattle. The only surfaces that still cause the endlinks to rattle are large bumps or slow, undulating roads. The nice thing that I have found about these boots is that, once they are filled with grease, they effectively dampen the sound generated by the rattling. So, even if the parts do rattle, the noise is quiet and tolerable. Here is a picture of what they look like installed:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg endlink1.jpg (865.1 KB, 530 views)
__________________
1992 Subaru SVX LS-L
1995 Subaru SVX LSi
Reply With Quote
  #291  
Old 10-31-2011, 09:32 AM
92 SVX 92 SVX is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Jax Florida
Posts: 1,469
Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

I would like to say I still have not heard any noise from the endlinks, those teflon coated ones seem to work for me.
Reply With Quote
  #292  
Old 10-31-2011, 09:44 AM
sicksubie's Avatar
sicksubie sicksubie is offline
Registered User
Subaru Bronze Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Holden, MA or the White Mountains
Posts: 3,812
Send a message via ICQ to sicksubie Send a message via AIM to sicksubie Send a message via Skype™ to sicksubie
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

I checked the clearance on my rsb at the pumpkin carve meet and I have plenty of space and am in no risk of hitting anything connected to the rear brakes.
__________________
Former:
1994 Barcelona Red(x2), 1995 Brilliant Red, 1992 Liquid Silver, 1992 Ebony(x2), 1992 Pearl White (x2)
Current:
2017 Ford Raptor
2017 Kawasaki KLR
1995 Guards Red Carrera
1995 Spec-ish Miata - track car
1957 CJ-5
Reply With Quote
  #293  
Old 10-31-2011, 10:06 AM
svxfiles's Avatar
svxfiles svxfiles is offline
There's a storm coming.
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wiley Ford WV
Posts: 8,650
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Bobby, did you get to autocross this past weekend?
__________________
www.svxfiles.com
The first SuperCharged SVX,
the first 4.44 gears,
the first equal length headers,
the first phenolic spacers,
the first Class Glass fiberglass hood,
the first with 4, 4.44s in his driveway


Fiberglass Hood thread
My locker
4.44 Swap link

Last edited by svxfiles; 10-31-2011 at 10:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #294  
Old 10-31-2011, 10:08 AM
svxfiles's Avatar
svxfiles svxfiles is offline
There's a storm coming.
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Wiley Ford WV
Posts: 8,650
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by svxfiles View Post
I just checked sicksubie's SVX and it's 47, 3/8" outside to outside.
He seems to have all the clearance in the world!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sicksubie View Post
I checked the clearance on my rsb at the pumpkin carve meet and I have plenty of space and am in no risk of hitting anything connected to the rear brakes.



__________________
www.svxfiles.com
The first SuperCharged SVX,
the first 4.44 gears,
the first equal length headers,
the first phenolic spacers,
the first Class Glass fiberglass hood,
the first with 4, 4.44s in his driveway


Fiberglass Hood thread
My locker
4.44 Swap link
Reply With Quote
  #295  
Old 10-31-2011, 06:31 PM
Nevin's Avatar
Nevin Nevin is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalona, IA
Posts: 1,200
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

The magic number I've given the shop (as far as width is concerned) is 47 3/4". That's what I measured my stock bar at for width, so I just went from there. So, some are a little less than that and some are quite a bit less. Really, the problem with making them the way we do is that it's kinda hard to get them all exactly identical, but they are all measured to be under the known "safe" clearance, so that's been good enough for me, knowing that the endlink was beefy enough and had plenty of clearance and travel. Also, you should all know that nearly every bar sold (minus a couple special order units) has been test fit on my own car so far to make sure it will work just fine. So far NONE have had clearance issues. I am very picky with the shop and have returned quite a few to them for not working right.

I'll be exploring those boots though, as that seems like it would be an excellent addition. I've had no issues with the endlinks I'm including as far as clearance or strength is concerned, only noise issues, which these may help lessen/resolve.

For those who are wondering what's going on, yes your swaybar may be making some clacking noises (at the endlinks) if it sees lots of wear. The links work GREAT, but they're really for race applications and not for eveyrday use. So, they are strong as anything and don't give at all, but just make some clatter, which is admittedly embarrasing (for me to have sold it to you all) and annoying to the user. So far I haven't found an alternative that fits the bill but won't raise the price any more. I know for what you're getting it seems like the price is high enough and I don't want to have to jack it up any higher for something that I don't know works great. The next batch could easily come with a set of the "boots" to help with noise and lube issues.


So far, clearance has not been a problem until someone helping me try to fix the problem put on a set of links on that I did not originally mean to be installed. So, none of you should be worrying about clearance and/or breaking things. If any of you HAVE had problems, I would love to make it right for you if something has gone wrong. nevinbontrager@gmail.com is the best way to get ahold of me, as I can keep records more easily if I need to.\

I hope this helps clear anything up for people.
__________________
Jesus is the remedy
2015 Expedition EL Ecoboost
Ebony Pearl '95 Subaru SVX LSi

Home of the Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar!!

Last edited by Nevin; 10-31-2011 at 06:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #296  
Old 02-09-2012, 11:20 PM
svxcess's Avatar
svxcess svxcess is offline
Super Moderator
Alcyone Gold Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Westminster, MD
Posts: 6,748
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX Classic SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

OT and I just took delivery of a complete set of 3/8" x 24 Chromoly Teflon/ Kevlar rod ends for Nevin's swaybar. They have a load rating 9,544 lbs. They come from qscomponents

Two ends per side (LH and RH threads) These should completely quiet down the swaybar rattle at about $37.00 a set of 4.





Will report back soon.



.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg end link.jpg (20.2 KB, 1703 views)
__________________
.
Subaru Ambassador

1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD

JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995.....
Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan

In-Service Date: January 2, 1997



"The Pristine Green Polo Machine”
First Polo Green on the Network
First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000)
First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007)
First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013)

HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler.


R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016

2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ... 203,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback

2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles.
Plenty of parts, service and windshields.


4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001

My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX .

.

Last edited by svxcess; 01-25-2018 at 01:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #297  
Old 02-10-2012, 01:23 AM
Lookin4SVX Lookin4SVX is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: TN
Posts: 843
Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Do those rod ends just screw into the ones that came in the nevin kit?
Reply With Quote
  #298  
Old 02-10-2012, 03:24 AM
SilverSpear's Avatar
SilverSpear SilverSpear is offline
Still 1.7K to go...
Subaru Silver Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lebanon, Middle East
Posts: 7,563
Send a message via AIM to SilverSpear Send a message via MSN to SilverSpear Send a message via Skype™ to SilverSpear
Registered SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

hey guys,

I might be late in this, but I just took the measurement off the bar that I received from Nevin. It turned out to be 119.7cm or around 47.12 inches.

Check the attached pictures...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg nevin 1.jpg (189.8 KB, 506 views)
File Type: jpg nevin 2.jpg (250.5 KB, 496 views)
__________________
Danny

1994 Silver SVX in hybernation, awaiting for the monsterous awakening (Lebanon)
1967 Mercedes-Benz 250SL Euro Specs, Hard/Softtop, White/Red. Under Complete Restoration
2013 Mercedes-Benz SL350 Euro Specs, White/Red. Mint... Another step into SL Collection.
Reply With Quote
  #299  
Old 02-10-2012, 07:16 AM
svxcess's Avatar
svxcess svxcess is offline
Super Moderator
Alcyone Gold Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Westminster, MD
Posts: 6,748
Significant Technical Input Registered SVX Classic SVX
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lookin4SVX View Post
Do those rod ends just screw into the ones that came in the nevin kit?
Yes they do. A LH and RH link for each side so you can adjust the length of the end links.

However, we have determined than tightening them to the lowest position seems to be the safest to avoid possible contact with brake components.

__________________
.
Subaru Ambassador

1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD

JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995.....
Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan

In-Service Date: January 2, 1997



"The Pristine Green Polo Machine”
First Polo Green on the Network
First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000)
First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007)
First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013)

HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler.


R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016

2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ... 203,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback

2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles.
Plenty of parts, service and windshields.


4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001

My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX .

.
Reply With Quote
  #300  
Old 02-10-2012, 12:15 PM
Nevin's Avatar
Nevin Nevin is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalona, IA
Posts: 1,200
Re: Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar kit

Just so you guys know, I have no problem with you ordering these parts directly from my supplier, qscomponents. There's no sense in me buying them and marking them up and reselling to you. Also, the best solution for the endlinkl with the qs parts is very simple. Shorter endlinks. The bars coming out now will only have a 5'' link instead of the 6'' as previous.
__________________
Jesus is the remedy
2015 Expedition EL Ecoboost
Ebony Pearl '95 Subaru SVX LSi

Home of the Bontrager Works 22mm rear sway bar!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2015 SVX World Network
(208)-906-1122