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It humors me that the Grand Oil Party was once the fiscally responsible and conservation minded party. Not sure how they got that way since even in the "good" Regan years they squandered nearly 2 trillion dollars on that wonderful war on drugs only to 20 years later embrace the benefits of the poppy in Afganistan. Next time you feel the insecurity in yourself to question another citizen's patriotism or belief that as Obigears put it the other night. We are Americans first and party second (only he got it wrong as political parties are 3/4 of the problem). As for who I vote for that is a personal issue. I will say that I did donate to 4 canidates this year. 1 Republican and 3 "others". I even have one of these canidate's bumper stickers on all of my vehicles simply because it really pisses off the "Hope" voters. Even in PA (one of the most anti-major party states for ballot access I think at this point the Constitution Party, Lib Party, Green Party and Nader will all be on the ballot. Thanks in a major way to the State Demo. Party paying staff members to prevent its citizens the right to make a choice other than bad and worse. That's what is they want you to choose from, personally I'm smarter than that. I simply wish others were instead of playing into the scare tactics both parties use to prevent a full dialog of the real issues. Its more fun to worry about the non issues they spout: abortion, change, jobs, partisan white noise and drilling rather than the real issues: the dollar, education, an energy plan, health care, our military and our infastructure... All things that Americans have a universal stake in seeing they are the best in the world. BTW Harry, I was perfectly civil in answering Dave's question in my first post. Sure it was crude but he asked for an opinion and that is what he got. He simply didn't want to hear that she isn't the second oh right 3rd coming of Christ right after Rush's Messiah!
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You can't blame Bush for much of the real or perceived current economic problems. The mortgage mess and high oil prices and its impact on other prices was going to happen no matter who was president. Particularly, if the liberal democrats continue to block new oil exploration in areas where there are know reserves (size unknown until drilled).
BUT a notice to you far left liberals that do oppose drilling new offshore wells or in areas such as ANWAR: CHINA is drilling within 35 miles of the US coast and is drilling SLANT holes which takes them even closer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now--how smart is it that the Democrats block the US doing this drilling??????????? Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!! As to Palin--no matter how you slice it, she has as much experience (qualification) as Hussein Obama who is incidently more Arab than Black. AND--she is running for VP and not Prez. Lee PS: As to the weak US dollar--all of you bleeding hearts do a quick survey around your house--How many products do you have made in China versus made in the USA??????????? Reckon that might have something to do with it?????
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Benebob,
Do you think everything politicians say is just to be elected? I think I would rather believe a new voice till or if proven otherwise. Why disrespect a woman that appears to be a reformer and a fighter? When push comes to shove would you prefer a result like Ross Perot gave us in 92? Does it not matter to you which of the 2 major parties are in control? Do you like paying taxes? I just don't understand why a person that does not support either party would not in the final hour support one in your best interest. What is it like to be disgusted with both major parties? Right, wrong, or otherwise, one of those parties will make the important decisions for 2,4,6,8 years. Making a personal statement by voting or supporting a party/candidate that has no chance is the same as not voting or voting against a major party/candidate. I don't want more taxes. I want leaders that are sensitive to job creators.
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Just as we are paying the price for not seriously developing non petroleum energy sources 30+ years ago, we will pay a huge price for allowing all the products that are made in China. What if China cut us off? Massive US start ups? Hardly, we would suffer big time for a long time.
In 2000 we had $13 a barrel oil, we let the OPEC producers woo us even before there was an OPEC. During the 70's oil embargo we should have sucked it up and made serious moves to alternate energy, but, no, we don't do 'suck up' well. So we are paying for our collective lack of attention? Maybe we really can only blame ourselves.
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As for if I like paying taxes, my response is simple. You can knock the federal government all you want but in the end it is the most efficient, most professional, best run government in the world (even with the partisan politics). I've yet to hear a so called "conservative" advocate disbanding the largest government cost over run there is, our military. That's because it is simply the best this world has ever seen yet they do pay quite a bit for their toilets too. No I don't like paying taxes any more than anyone else but I also don't like paying my electric bill, my car insurance, my health insurance, my water bill, and on and on and on. It is my responsiblity as an American to pay my taxes just as it is yours. As someone who no doubt uses medicare or caid I'm sure you're well aware of its shortcoming. I'm also sure you're well aware of its advantages otherwise you wouldn't use it. Health insurance is just as vital in a global economy to have at the very least a program of last resort for your neighbors and mine who loose coverage for whatever reason as without it my insurance costs sky rocket, hospitals go under and the poor still don't pay for their heath care and are thus unhealthy and less productive at their work. Just as I support public access to safe drinking water for the country and school lunches for children, as there is a common good, I support basic health care at a reasonable cost. If someone wants more than by all means they can pay for an expanded policy. Without it we will continue to fall behind the other countries that do. Quote:
The only reason that better canidates don't have a chance is because of the poor choices made in the voting booth or from the fear tactics used by both parties to brainwash you into thinking that X will happen if you elect the other guy, then there is the political exclusion they endure trying to compete against the two parties who have delivered their trash to your TV. I'm a realist who understands that the longer the country goes down this path, the harder it will be to dig us out. I also realize that by that time the rest of the country will have realized that their political system was the problem all along and in the end it will be easier to dig out simply because Americans will have decided to vote for the best person for office, not the party line, not the lesser of bad but for someone who can lead. Quote:
I don't want to pay more taxes either but when I look at the alternatives of raising a daughter, putting her through college so she can work for WalMart at what I make today (she's 3 BTW) then I'll gladly pay more for taxes if needed to ensure that America has that chance to remain as the beacon of light. I guess you don't care about America as much as you're pocket or as much as you like to think if your not willing to ensure your kids live better than you have.
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Why don't we listen to Lee though and drill, drill, drill until we run dry then since we don't have a collective attention span of more than 2 minutes we'll have a country which runs on oil, no oil to use and a pissed off bear in Russia who waited 75 years for this day while sitting on a pile of "military" strategic oil reserves. Last time I checked our military needed oil to run. I'm not opposed to drilling but I'm opposed to drilling unchecked with no concern for our future. While Lee is right about China he's forgetting that Cuba also came directly to the US after Castro overthru a brutally corrupt US puppet state wanting to develop an economic partnership. Naturally we rebuffed as it was the middle of the cold war. We'll trade with China today, we'll trade with Vietnam today but Cuba is still an island in need of our help towards the light yet we shun it. I'm sure if any president would go down there and sign that deal to drill there in return for starting a normalization process the Cubans would send the Chinese packing in a heartbeat. I guess the Cuban gov't must be worse than the Chinese gov't though and we're taking the moral high road. Just don't be suprised when Russia send some interceptor missles there to counter the ones we decided to place in Poland.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...ts_say/?page=2 Quote:
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I would like to put in a vote for higher taxes. I probably pay more taxes than most people here, but I only regret those payments because they have been wasted on "foreign adventures.". I just wish the money were spent on things that would make the US more competitive and thus help, as Benebob has suggested, strengthen the dollar. We have an enormous balance of payments deficit and an enormous federal budget deficit. We need to bring both of those down, and more taxation particularly of those who can afford it, would certainly help both of these.
This summer I did a river cruise on the Danube, Main and Rhine rivers. The Main and the Danube are connected by a canal, with many locks. This canal was built with taxpayer money. It primarily is a conduit for bulk commodities, ore, coal, agricultural products. The lock fees will never pay back the capital cost of this canal. But, this canal has a number of benefits for Germany and Europe as a whole. it significantly decreases the cost of transporting commodities, keeping their costs down for everyone. It significantly reduces truck traffic on their highways, increasing safety, improving the autobahn experience. It is an infrastructure improvement that has demonstrated advantages for all. Originally, the US interstate highway system was the same deal. Today, we are burdened with spending for highly parochial interests. There is no national plan for infrastructure improvement, such as railroads, bridges to somewhere, etc. So, I am for a balanced federal budget, increased spending for infrastructure, and increased taxes for those who can afford them. I do not buy the line that increasing taxes on the wealthy decreases their incentive to invest and thereby decreases the benefits of these investments for all Americans. The trickle down argument is crap. There is pretty good statistical evidence that supply side economic programs actually tend to depress the economy. Economic growth occurs more frequently with more balanced federal budgets, more infrastructure investment, and as a result higher taxes on the wealthy and corporations.
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As for Barack Obama's ethnic origin, his mother's maiden name is originally English, his grandmother's maiden name is French (Normandy), via England. His father is from the Luo tribe of Kenya, whose linguistic and genetic roots are both Semitic (Nubian, etc in Sudan) and sub-Saharan African. Ain't no Arabic in there at all, except, if you go back many thousands of years, there is a common genetic connection between Arabic and Nilo-semitic groups. Of course, you go back a few more thousands of years and we are all "out of Africa."
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Also, think you need to listen to TBoone again. He says--drill, drill, drill, but also poses the realistic approach of alternatives. He says drill, drill, drill, to buy time to develop the alternatives. You also need to review your data on offshore oil resources and get it from something other than liberal sources that play down the need to do this drilling. EVEN in the 90's more than 30 percent of the worldwide oil production was coming from offshore wells. This has increased and as I said--We do NOT know how much we have offshore because we have not been permitted to drill enough in all potential areas to make a determination Lee
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Offshore drilling is not the answer. We need to stop pissing off the world's oil producers and we won't have any more problems.
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There have been over 4000 wells drilled in the Gulf of Mexico--can you describe the adverse environmental impact resulting from this large number of wells???? I doubt it. Again more fiction than fact as to environmental impact. What do you propose--leave the oil in the ground for countries such as China to drill it by advanced slant hole techniques??????? That makes a lot of sense. Lee
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I need to hunt down my source, but I read *somewhere* that mother nature leaks more oil into the environment than the current or proposed offshore drilling would... ever.
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http://www.livescience.com/environme..._oil_seep.html Lee
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Some wonders will never cease to amaze me, one of which being how much you and I agree upon, lately. The other being what you said about misinformed individuals.
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